法王噶玛巴专访 | 皈依意味着什么
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What does it mean to take refuge ?
皈依意味着什么？
噶玛巴答
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当我们说去皈依。
皈依是好像是说有某个人可以帮助我们，一个依靠的人。
比如，当还是小孩时，小孩子可以依托父母，需要父母的照顾，感到被保护与安全。
所以皈依意味着信任，我们有某个人信心，可以将自己交托于信任的人。
其次，第一个字，英文的意思是“去”，为了皈依而“前往”，因此我们去皈依。
这里并不是说我们可以寄希望于某个人，这里的意思真正重要的是，就好像当你说你要去，好比你走在某个地方。
这言下之意就是，我们正朝着自己所依止的「状态」前进。这个状态是我们所依止的源头，我们「真实的自己」-「佛性」。
因此我们皈依于佛陀， 为了能够从佛陀处得到究竟的救护，那么我们自己就要证得佛性，也就是佛陀的果位。
如果我们让自己真正的迈入证得佛果的道路，那么我们将得到真实的救护。
当我们说皈依时，这里并不是所为了寻求帮助而皈依。这其实是为了证得佛性而去皈依。
当我们说皈依时，有「外皈依」、「内皈依」。「外皈依」是指佛、法、僧，让我们所皈依的佛法僧的功德品质在自心也能够中展开，如此的外皈依是我们真正可以交付且依托的。
但是要让自己得到最究竟和完全的护佑，我们是否能得到如此的救护，这取决于我们做了什么，取决于自己是否如法修行，是否能将佛法僧具备的功德品质在自心中开显出来。
当我们依此而行进行修持，自心有了真正的进步，也只有从这个方面着手，我们才能够说自己得到了真实和完整的救护。
所以，当我们去皈依时，重要的是要了解，所皈依的并非是外皈依，同时我们也皈依于内皈依，皈依于自己本自具足的品质。所以从这方面了解皈依是非常重要的。
When we say going for refuge. Refuge is like means someone can individually place our help, someone we can approach. So like, when you are a small child, you can approach your parents for a sense of carety for protection security, so someone we can believe in , someone we can approach and believe in.
And second, for the first word in english is ‘going’, ‘going’for refuge, so we go for refuge, this is not just someone we can place our hope, but that actully there is a meaning there is really important, and that is like you are talking about going, that is like walking in some place, so it is a sense of actully we are progressing towards the level to achive in the state in those the source of refuge to oursleves.
So we go for the refuge towards the Buddha, then in order to be able to achieve the ultimate protection from the buddha we are selves. need to be able to go towards that state of buddhahood. If we actualy move oursleve towards that state of buddahood, then we be able to recieve the actul protection.
So when we talk about going for refuge, it is not just asking a helping for this refuge. It is actully going for a refuge for ourselves.
When we talk about going for refuge, there is outer refuge, and there is inner refuge.
The outer refuge is talk about the buddha and dharma and sanga, these the quality of the buddha. dhama and sanga that other individual has develop within themselves these are what we approach that which I do rely upon.
But in order to give ourselves the ultimate the total protection, wether we are able to do that depends upon our selves and what we can on ourselves, and depends upon compliance, and depends upon our own practice, and developing the qualities of scripture and realization within ourselves.
When we do that point, and actully make that progress and only at that point, we will be able to say we actully have complete and total protection for ourselves.
So it’s important when we go refuge. we go for refuge is not just for the outer source for refuge, but we also take refuge for taking the inner refuge, refuge in our own quality and capabilities.
So it is important to go for refuge in that way.
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Karmapa Yount Community Persents
2013年8月25日上密院
藏译中：David Karma Choepal
英译中：正法互联
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